Re: GCLR2 Trams Today
  Mick Duncan

Gday  Dud

One would hope the Connie didnt let the lever go when a tram was
over the points..

Your description is correct

I doubt any Tramway would let a hand lever go up against side locked points

Cheers,    Mick

On 11/11/2017 7:50 PM, 'Dudley Horscroft'transitconsult@...
[TramsDownUnder] wrote:
> If I remember correctly, the standard actuating mechanism was a three position arrangement which allowed the points to biased for

> left, right, or unbiased. With either of the biased arrangements, the points were set for the one direction, to which they reverted

> after passage of a tram trailing from the other direction. With unbiased, the points always remained in the last position set, so

> that if set for main line they stayed that way till a tram trailed in from the branch, and then they remained set for the branch

> till a tram trailed from the main line.

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> Perhaps the GCLR engineers were not certain how the springs should be set? and so arranged that they are always set for the facing

> direction leading to the crossover? The unbiased setting meant that for the reverse movement to use the crossover, a point bar

> would be required to change this. With the permanently biased setting, a side of the road lever would be needed - reasonable when

> there were conductors to hold the point level while the tram passed.

>

> Regards

>

> Dudley Horscroft

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> Regards

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> Dudley Horscroft

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> From: "Richard Youltressteleg@... [TramsDownUnder]" TramsDownUnder@...>

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> What surprises me with GC is that mainline trailing points are spring loaded, set for the very rare occasions when they may be

> needed for a reversing tram. A very wasteful procedure.

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> I need to ask drivers if they even carry a point bar.

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> Regards,

>> On 10 Nov 2017, at 10:03 pm, 'Noel Reed'noelreed10@... [TramsDownUnder] TramsDownUnder@...> wrote:

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>> Trailing through tram points against the switch blade position is common tramway practice where switch blades can be repaired by

>> welding.

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>> In Sydney, rarely used crossovers were usually set for the straight on both tracks to avoid unnecessary wear.

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>> Trailing against the switch blade positions at a tramway museum causes gradual wear on the points and wheel flanges. Is it good

>> practice at a museum to invite unnecessary wear which costs extra expense for the volunteers ?

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>> Many US trolley museums use manual non trailable ‘switch stands’ for point operation so points must be set correctly for both

>> facing and trailing movements.

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>> From:TramsDownUnder@... [mailto:TramsDownUnder@yahoogroups.com]

>> Sent: Friday, 10 November 2017 1:41 PM

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>> Subject: Re: [TramsDownUnder] GCLR2 Trams Today

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>> On 10/11/17 10:36, 'William Jackson'apairofjacks@...

>> [TramsDownUnder] wrote:

>> Richard

>> Do you have a feeling as to whether trams will be stopping before the

>> facing points, ala Melbourne?

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>> Probably not as they have point blade location detection.

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>> I noticed at the Uni terminus shortly after the system opened, while an incoming tram was 'trailing' the crossover points, the

>> point indicator signal was flipping between 'set for turn' and 'stop' each time a wheel pushed pass the switch blade.

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>> So the driver has advance warning of the blade positions via these lamps, which appear to reflect what the real blade position is,

>> not the commanded blade position.

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>> So they don't have to stop with in visual distance and look at the blades, just see (from a distance) that the right lamp is lit.

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>> The non-connected stub siding, to be connected / has already?

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>> Wasn't this a construction siding ?.

>> It will be eventually removed entirely if thats why it's there.

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>> Posted by: Matthew Geier matthew@...>

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