Appears that Matthew can't back up his attack on the RTBU.
TedDing ding
From: "Tony Gallowayarg@... [TramsDownUnder]" TramsDownUnder@...>
To: "TramsDownUnder@yahoogroups.com" TramsDownUnder@...>
Sent: Friday, 15 September 2017, 21:54
Subject: Re: [TramsDownUnder] Re: Sydney metro progress
A “militant left wing union” ?
In NSW ?
Name it - it seems to have escaped my notice.
The last one I can think of was Jack Mundey’s Builders Labourers Federation - and we know what happened to that.
Tony G
On 15 Sep 2017, at 3:56 pm, Matthew Geiermatthew@... [TramsDownUnder] TramsDownUnder@...> wrote:
On 15/09/17 04:22, Robbie Smith zoqaeski@gmail.com [TramsDownUnder] wrote:
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> I don't understand why they're rebuilding all the stations to have straight platforms and platform screen doors. Even Japan doesn't have doors at most of their stations, and there's really no need for them except perhaps at underground stations.
The platform doors will be a requirement for unattended ATO. Sydney is going for 'GoA 4', (Grade of Automation) full automatic train operation with no operations staff on board.
Part of the Metro push is to remove the RBTU from the picture. So no operational staff, no one for the Union to claim representation for.
I've seen 'GoA 4' implemented with out platform doors - the stations have obstruction RADAR units under the platform face to detect objects on the track and if something trips the RADAR units, an emergency stop signal is sent to the approaching train.
The entire Bankstown line will have to be fenced with a robust high security fence too, to keep trespassers off the line.
There is going to be much angst at all levels when the first suicide by self driving train occurs - especially when the train fails to notice it's just run over some one and keeps going till a passenger pulls the alarm signal.. (and multiple passengers witness the point of impact - now it's just train drivers that have to suffer, now untrained members of the public in the leading car will too)
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> It seems like an extraordinary waste of money that could be put to better use, e.g. rolling out ETCS across the entire network. It's almost like they're trying to break up Cityrail, no expenses spared.
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Pretty much - and I personally think the only way the Liberal government could bring it self to approve a new railway line was to make it 100% automated so they could rest easy knowing they were not creating jobs for a militant left wing union.
> I hope the trains won't be that ugly when they're built. They've got a face not even their mother could love.
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Too late - that mock up, is probably the final version.... Besides you won't be able to see the front of the train though the platform doors or the high security fencing :-)
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