No matter who they got "off the shelf" trains from there probably would
have been a need for loading gauge enhancement. The only really suitable
train replacement, for my mind, were the Sadlier family of Swiss DD. What a
pity we did not get them.
There are still a few other tight spots around, such as the points in front
of Gosford signal box.
Bob T
On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 2:58 PM, 'Brian'bblunt@...
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> I think they can get a Tangara or Oscar to Springwood. Beyond is the
> problem:.
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> https://www.transport.nsw.gov.au/projects/current-projects/
> new-intercity-fleet-program-springwood-to-lithgow-rail-corridor
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> So to bring a Tangara to say Springwood would they just need to replace
> signals and cut the platforms back.
> Would much cutting back of platforms need to be done and if so at what
> stations?
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> Geoffrey
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> On 11/08/17 10:53, Robert Taaffertaaffe9@... [TramsDownUnder]
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> > Most engineers DO NOT GO into such ventures with their eyes closed and
> > you can bet that the track alterations were in the original submission.
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> That the engineers made.
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> Doesn't mean the politicians that called for the order to be made even
> looked at the engineers report or even cared.
> All they care about is the next press release.
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> Implementation is some one else's problem.
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> I quite believe that at the political level, originally no money was
> allocated for gauge enhancement.
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> Sooner or later gauge enhancement work would have been needed, the other
> two routes out of Sydney under the wires were widened out years ago to
> take medium width stock, only Katoomba west had been ignored. Until now.
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> It wouldn't have been such an issue if Baird hadn't made a song-n-dance
> about saving money by buying 'standard off the shelf trains'. By doing
> so the politicians have set them selves up for ridicule when the media
> latch onto the gauge enhancement works required. So much for cheaper
> 'off the shelf' trains if you have to spend money else where to make the
> tracks fit them.
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> Even if the whole concept of buying cheaper 'standard' trains is a sound
> idea, and that the gauge enhancement really is needed to bring that line
> up to a common standard, put the two together with the way the
> government went on about their 'savings by using standard trains' and
> they have a media feeding frenzy about inappropriate spending and poor
> budgeting / project management. Any merits of the original proposals get
> lost.
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