On 26/07/17 18:13,prescottt@... [TramsDownUnder] wrote:

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> All of Greg's points are true, but the greatest obstacle to easy

> interoperability is that any CSELR tram purloined for inner west

> service will have to shed half its consist as the inner west platforms

> are only long enough for 30 metre trams. It's quite feasible but

> requires a bit of uncoupling work at Randwick depot before the trams

> are despatched.

They ordered double-enders. It it takes more than 5 minutes to uncouple,
the shunter should be fired.
They have to couple to Urbos - so that means they will have Sharfenbergs
which were specified to couple to the Variotrams. Unlock two handles
and remove the jumper cable. Even with the 'standard' Citadis couplers
it should take less than 5 minutes.

> And then if the tram is suddenly needed back in the city on heavy

> duty, it has to find its other half.

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> The other problem is that there's only one turnout in one direction at

> Hay and George - in the Circular Quay direction, requiring an

> APS-equipped tram and certainly no direct route to the SE. I think it

> would be all too hard for the poor dears.

No - the transition to APS is at Town Hall. There is a scissors
crossover going in south of the George Street stop - presumably to allow
the easy turn back of trams with damaged APS gear. Still a change-of-end
is required to run from Lilyfield to Randwick due to the lack of south
facing curves down at Hay St, but APS is not required.

Baring platform clearance issues, there is no reason why an Urbos 3
couldn't go to Moore Park or Randwick. It's possible the Urbos 3 entry
sills will foul CESLR platforms. (The IWLR hybrid profile wheels should
cope with the CESLR street track - if the flanges are not too large for
the groove, I'll have to go back and check the so called 'standards')

> Best to keep it simple and separate in NSW.


Have to leave something for the buses to do - like special event
services from the Inner west to Moore Park or Randwick Racecourse.

But this sillyness leaves no option to reallocate rolling stock as needs
change or to cater for special events.

Would you build buses that could only run on a special sort of road that
exists only in their regular service area - or would to build to the
Australian Design Rules so it can gave general registration and run
anywhere required ?

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> Tony P

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> ---InTramsDownUnder@..., <arg@...> wrote :

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> This TfNSW stupidity-on-a-stick finally gets the mainstream attention

> it deserves :

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>> http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/why-sydneys-new-light-rail-trams-wont-carry-passengers-on-inner-west-line-20170725-gxida4.html

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> Check out the “explanation" from the TfNSW spokes-stooge - idiotic

> gibberish expressed in the dumbest corporate crap speak imaginable.

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> TfNSW - where the fish rots from the head.

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> (Well done Greg Sutherland for your comments)

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> Tony G

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