But remember in those days the air conditioning for the passengers was the fact that the doors were only closed if it was raining
and the rain was blowing inside. Otherwise the doors stayed open. I don't think the first double deckers had power operated doors,
and I am fairly certain that they were only marshalled in sets without this feature.

Regards

Dudley Horscroft
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Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 10:22 PM
Subject: RE: [TramsDownUnder] Re: FW: snippets, Mon.6.3.17, Adele crowds.

Hi Tony,

The proposed use of single deck trains went beyond the Bankstown loop. These trains were also considered suitable for all stations
to Hurstville, to Liverpool, to Parramatta to Epping and to Lindfield.

The plan was for double deck trains to operate with only limited stops to Hurstville, Liverpool, Parramatta, Epping and Lindfield
and all stops beyond.

The difficulty arose with passengers from city stations boarding the first train to arrive for a journey only to Redfern or North
Sydney and taking up the seating intended for passengers travelling longer distances. The long distance commuters would then wait
and wait for a train with spare seats and add to the overload on platforms at Wynyard and Town Hall.

We probably needed strict regimentation of passengers at city stations with “pushers” similar to those in Japan. Passengers standing
near train doorways keeping the doors from fully closing with their foot didn’t help either.

Noel Reed.

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Sent: Tuesday, 21 March 2017 9:19 PM
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Subject: RE: [TramsDownUnder] Re: FW: snippets, Mon.6.3.17, Adele crowds.

Hi Noel. The version of events that I gave is what happened and is supported by Dornan and Henderson in their account of NSW
electric railways, written close to the events in the 1970s. The deckers came about because they couldn't for various reasons get
more capacity out of the system so they felt that they would try instead get a bit more out of the trains while retaining the 8 car
length as you say.

It would be difficult to roster the solution you suggest as mostly they're the same lines serving both inner and outer areas. About
the only short-distance line you could preserve for single deckers in those days might be the Bankstown/Inner West loop.

Tony P